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129: Practical Tips For Creating A Budget (my bookkeeper spills some critical MONEY secrets) featuring Anamarie Knapp

Hey friend! Today, my bookkeeper, Anamarie Knapp, joins me. If you’re an OG listener, you’ve heard her name plenty of times and finally get to meet her! Anamarie takes us on a journey from her days in concert production to her deep dive into finance and bookkeeping for small businesses. We chat about the transformative power of keeping your finances in check. It’s not just about numbers; it’s about dreaming big, planning-wise, and having a giggle or two along the way. Grab your calculators and sprinkle some magic on those financial statements! Also, Anamarie is so kind and gracious to have offered a FREE Money class (creating a SYSTEM for the numbers behind your business, you can sign up for it today after listening in to the show)🥳

We hope you enjoy these practical money tips for business owners from a bookkeeper’s perspective!!! 

Meet Anamarie Knapp

Anamarie Knapp is the owner and CEO of Will & Abby Bookkeeping, a company based in Nashville, TN that extends its services virtually across the United States. Her primary objective is to lead a life of service, utilizing her skills and talents to enhance the lives of others. While dreaming up a business is enjoyable, running one is challenging. Understanding and deciphering financials can often appear daunting. Will & Abby Bookkeeping aims to alleviate this burden by offering assistance in managing daily financial tasks, allowing clients to refocus on their initial business motivations.

The company specializes in catering to small, service-oriented, solo-owned businesses, with a particular fondness for serving working mothers. Additionally, they possess expertise in supporting small non-profits and setting them up for success in QuickBooks. Will & Abby Bookkeeping pledges to handle the backend financial responsibilities, empowering clients to concentrate on the core operations of their businesses.

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Dolly DeLong: Welcome back to another Systems and Workflow Magic Podcast episode. I am your Systems and Workflow BFF and guide, Dolly DeLong. Today, I am thrilled to introduce my business, which is fantastic, my best-kept secret, and my bookkeeper, Anamarie Knapp. Now, here is a little personal story about Anamarie. I have known her for quite some time now. I’ve been photographing her family since, I don’t know when since her daughter was a newborn. So, for at least six to seven years, little did I know that one day, one of my favorite clients, I mean this one of my favorite clients, would become my financial expert. And I want to remind everybody about the power of personal connection with friends. Cause you never know where your business and your lives may intertwine. But I’m just going to welcome Anamarie on the podcast and let her do an official bio about herself. So welcome, Anamarie. Do you mind sharing a little about yourself, your business, and why you started bookkeeping? 
 
Anamarie Knapp: Sure. Yeah. Thank you for having me. As Dolly said, I feel like we’ve known each other seven or eight years by this point, working together and then working together taking our family photos, and she’s lovely. Shout out. So any local or I guess national wherever she’ll fly to you. Yes. Yeah, so here’s a little bit about me. Education-wise, I have an MBA. I’m finishing an accounting certificate. I’ve got KBooks certificates, some other bookkeeping certificates, and that kind of thing. There are many different types of education, certifications, etc. So finance and accounting is like a career change for me, a second career. So I started of school in the world of event music concert production. So I first went into. I worked for a company called Yamaha Entertainment Group and did artist relations, concert production, scheduling and logistics, and other things with artists. That was my calm young person’s job before I had kids. It was kind of a job that nobody with children could do. It was a lot, but it was awesome. Great experience. And then, I went to a local university where I still work full time, started in the event office, and did for. That’s where we met, probably when I was in the event office. Yeah. I did event planning and logistics for the same type of deal and then eventually moved into a scheduling role. Hence, I helped with the systems and workflow of using the terminology to centralize scheduling for events and things like that, and I also helped open a boutique hotel on campus. That was an exciting experience, and it also helped with budgeting. So, that was my first foray into the finance accounting world. So, about seven or eight years ago, my boss asked me to help oversee all the budgets there. So that’s what got me into it. And several years later, I realized this was my favorite part of my job. And people were like that. Did you enjoy that? And I, and I do. So, I get excited to do my taxes. I get excited to pull up my taxes. And play with it every month. So, most people’s eyes glaze over, and they don’t want anything to do with that. I realized I have a skill set that many people don’t have and don’t enjoy. So, um, a couple of years ago, Still at the university, I was asked to move into the finance office. So there I o,versee all of our real estate and rental properties and all finance accounting and back-end stuff that goes along with having. We have 90-ish properties or so that I help with, which is a lot, and that’s fun and exciting. More recently, I’ve been asked to help with the budget process for the university as a whole. And that’s also fun, as well as helping with the back end, systems, and things there. We just implemented a significant new budget software that’s exciting. So, that’s great and exciting and wonderful. So that’s my full-time day job. Then, several years ago, I decided I wanted to help and learn more about small businesses. So I get this in my full-time job; I do different kinds of work I won’t get. I won’t know about the small business aspect where I’m at. So, I decided to start a bookkeeping business. And I’ve enjoyed it more than I thought I would. And I love working with clients like you, Dolly, and 
 
Dolly DeLong: Yeah. I’m the best, 
 
Anamarie Knapp: Yep. She’s my favorite. Oh, wait, no,
 
Dolly DeLong: I’m just kidding.
 
Anamarie Knapp: she’s fantastic. I have had the best clients. I’m so fortunate. I hear stories of bookkeepers having to fire clients and stuff like that. And I’m like, I’m so lucky. I have such great clients, And I wanted to get more grassroots and Help the small business owner who’s just like I don’t. I’m by myself. I have no support, Or I might have a CPA that I talk to once a year, but I need ongoing help with my finances. So I enjoy helping them understand how to read their financial statements and budgets, analyze what they’re looking at, forecast, and that kind of thing. And so I’ve enjoyed doing that, and I love all my clients. They’re all wonderful. And it’s called Will and Abbey Bookkeeping After My Kids, William and Abigail. That’s where I came up with that. So that’s a little bit about me. My natural fun fact is that I’m from Alaska. That’s fun. We go back twice a year, and then we recently visited Hawaii. So now I’ve been to the 49th and 50th states, which I think is pretty neat. Dolly DeLong: Wow. So you’ve been to all 50 states. 
 
Anamarie Knapp: I’ve been to the 49th and 50th. No, I wish I’d been, I’ve been to all, I’ve maybe been to half at this point, but, but someone was like, your kids have been to the 49th and 50th states. I’m like, that’s pretty cool.
 
Dolly DeLong: That is cool.
 
Anamarie Knapp: that, so. 
 
Dolly DeLong: Wow. Well, Anamarie, thank you for agreeing to be on the podcast. And I know this is your very first podcast ever. So I’m honored it’s on this podcast because I know my listeners will love you. I talk about you all the time to the listeners and two other business owners who DM me, and they’re like, who is your bookkeeper? And I sell you all the time. So I love you. You’ve helped my business out so much. So listeners, since traditionally this is full disclosure, Anamarie and I are recording this on tax day, like it’s tax day today. I know this episode will air at the end of the traditional tax season. I say that in air quotes, and I thought it would be fun to repeat it. I think it’s fun. You may not think it’s fun listening. However, it would be a fun revisit, just a financial-related episode, because we are still in quarter two, and many small business owners are or may not assess our budgets. Assessing or evaluating not how we’re doing financially. Maybe your head is in the sand, the listener. And so, it’s time to bring your head up and start learning how to assess. So I know that this year has been challenging for many small business owners, and hard can sometimes equal us not looking at the numbers of our own business because we might be in panic mode. I am in desperation mode, trying to figure out how to make money. so let’s have a come-to-Jesus talk about money. And I know Anamarie will be very kind about it because she’s very kind to me. Cause I, she’s been putting up with me for over a year now, so I’m very grateful for her. She will be leading us through some basics of what we should have a pulse on when it comes to budgeting. 
 
Anamarie Knapp: I first want to touch on financial health. I would tell everybody it’s just a reminder that we all talk about physical and mental health, but we don’t speak very often about our financial health. And I think it’s because we’re all just scared about it. And a lot of us don’t understand it. And we see numbers, and we see financial statements, and it just, our eyes glaze over. We’re just like, I’m not dealing with it until today, April 15th, when I have to file my taxes. So most, personally, and in a small business, many people just put it off and don’t do anything, right? But a reminder is that your financial health can affect those other areas of your health. So it can affect you physically and mentally, of course, too. So, I think caring for and managing it is essential, especially as a small business owner. So, a critical aspect of my favorite financial world is budgeting. Again, it’s what I do, primarily full-time in my full-time job, and I love helping small business owners like you, Dolly, do your budget. So,  in budgeting, there are a couple of types of financial health to consider. One is reactive thinking of financials. So that would be like looking at your financial statements. Reconciling your Bank account and your monthly credit cards, and things like that. Those are reactive because everything’s already happened. It’s essential; you need to know what’s going on and ensure things are done correctly. You have correct financial statements, but it’s not proactive, so budgeting is a proactive, reactive tool in your financial toolbox. I would think of it as a roadmap. So it’s you sitting down and thinking, where do I want my business to be? Usually, a budget is done. For a year out, you can do further out or use it as a tool to forecast. So, think of it as a proactive tool in your toolbox. Budgets are fluid so you don’t have to make it and never look at it again I know like Dolly and I with yours we’ve looked at it and adjusted it as time passed. So, I’m going to talk about some budgeting tips here. So here’s what I would suggest for most small businesses to start. 
 
Dolly DeLong: say something speedy? Can I say something? I love the Anamarie that you stated. Look at it as a type of health, and I will share it with listeners because I’ve. If you guys have been OG listeners to the podcast, you know that my husband Ty came on as one of the only men ever on the podcast. Cause it’s usually like, I’m, I’m interviewing other female business centers, but we both. I shared our money journey with the listeners. I don’t know, this, obviously, this Anamarie, cause you deal with my numbers, that we paid off all of, I’m not going to say our student loans.
I’m going to tell my student loans. They became him when we married, and we paid that off in 19 months. But leading up to that point for me, I had a lot of mental stress. Like in the back of my head, I deal with stress. I joke around about everything. And so whenever I was stressed about money, I pushed it off. And I would fill. Please fill me with some nonsense like Comedy or joke like some of you might be thinking, well, it’s better than alcohol and drugs. Yeah, but I wasn’t based on reality. Like I would joke my way through things. I want to make a joke about it. I’d be like, Oh, I guess I’ll be paying this when I’m in a nursing home or whatever, like  I would, yeah, my kids will pay for it. But I noticed a very sharp contrast between before and after. So before leading up to dreading paying off my student loans, I dread not understanding money. It took a toll on me in bizarre ways, and afterward that financial burden came off my chest. I was like, wow, I can dream again, And I wasn’t always as anxious. So, it’s faithful listeners. I’m trying to bring this in to give you a real-life example. It is true. Like when you have something that’s so burdened on your chest,, It impactserent facets of your health, and, I did not recognize that. It came out with dark humor and might come out in different and unhealthy ways. So just please be fully aware of that. And I want to point that out. Thank you for bringing that 
 
Anamarie Knapp: yeah. And I’ll say this too: I think every single one of my clients, when I first started working with them, I think every one of them said to me, I’m embarrassed for you to look at my books. I was always like, you shouldn’t be ashamed, you shouldn’t be stressed out, because, one, most small business owners have no financial background; why would I’ve gone to hours of classes, hours, and hours of certification things, so it’s I should know how to do this and a small business owner may not. So I would say also don’t be embarrassed if you don’t understand all of it because there’s no way you’re going to learn and take it off with little chunks at a time of learning different things, especially if you don’t have a bookkeeper or a CPA you work with a lot, yes, don’t, learn. Just always be willing to learn; finances are the same thing. 
 
Dolly DeLong: Yes, exactly. Thanks for letting me know. I just wanted to share with the listeners. It comes out in different ways. So anyway, back to budgeting tips. 
 
Anamarie Knapp: budgeting. So here are some budgeting tips for you. So I always say, like, take some time. Dolly and I did this when we did her first budget last fall. It takes some time. And if you’re, if somebody’s helping you great meet with them, if not, take yourself on a mini retreat or do you have a business, let your business pay for you to go somewhere for half a day. Just start with all of your prior year’s expenses. I want to say this first: keep it simple. You don’t have to have some fancy, shiny app to do this. You don’t have to have some pretty graphs. Make a list of your spending, why, and with whom. And again, it does not have to be fancy. If you use QuickBooks, Zero, or some other kind of online software, you can probably pull a report for yourself, and you definitely can do so in QuickBooks. Still, for almost any of them, you pull a report from all your expenses that detail this is a quick tip: if you do use QuickBooks, you’re doing it on your put in a vendor name for each expense because that way, you can quickly sum up how much you’re spending with each vendor puts sit down and make your list and think about why am I paying, what I’m spending with each of these vendors. Is there anything I Can reduce? Is there something I don’t need? Do you need everything on your list? Can you consolidate some things into one? 
 
Dolly DeLong: This is so hard, everyone. 
 
Anamarie Knapp: And we do this, I do this in my full time job with big budgets. I do it with small business owners, and I do it personally. And it’s hard to sit down and think about that. This is true for small business owners because you’re spending money out of your pocket. Literal pocket for your family or yourself or whatever. So it is essential, but at the same time, it’s also important to spend money. You’ve got to spend money to make money. So you want to have what you’re spending equal dollars on, not just cash out the door. So take what you’ve got if you’ve got a couple of years of data. That’s helpful, too, to see year over year what you’ve been spending and why. Just make your list of what I think I will spend next year with each vendor. And start there. Then, do the same with your revenuRevenuegain; you don’t need anything fancy. Just make a list that shows what you do. Some businesses are pretty simple; you do one thing and know exactly what revenue how much it is. You’ve got several different sources of income coming in, but I would say get creative. There are probably sources you haven’t considered, and as you said, Dolly, I know many businesses have been. Revenue seems more complex, and keeping the money going is sometimes more challenging. In contrast, all the money keeps flowing out with inflation and whatnot, so get creative. There are probably things you haven’t thought of. Think about all sources of income, So I’ll brag about Dolly’s Bank. Her bank gives excellent interest. So look at a bank or an investment that you can put some of your money into that would bring in some interest or whatnot. But again, compare your year over your data and then think about your market and what you are charging compared to others in your market. Think about inflation, how you need to adjust your prices, and what you’re charging, and think about those extra costs, including taxes and things like that. But again, make your two lists. Okay. And then Put it all together. So you just put in at the top what you’re going to bring in, you put it at the bottom what your expenses are, and that’s your budget. So again, it doesn’t have to be complicated. I think there are a lot of resources out there, apps, and all of those things, and I call it shiny app syndrome, and I do it too. I’m like, ooh, there’s an app that can do that for me, and you don’t often need it. Sometimes, sitting down and writing it all down or typing it all in is better because it makes you think about each line item you’re putting in.
 
Dolly DeLong: That’s true. Also, I want to remind listeners that you might have a quote-unquote month where you feel like you’re bringing in so much money because many of your subscriptions are yearly or quarterly. So keep your subscriptions in mind as well. Like I, cause I have a lot of my, this, I have a lot of my subscriptions come out yearly. And so January is when those subscriptions come out, and I’m poor. I’m so poor at the beginning of the year. But, yeah, I’m like, oh my gosh, but by February, I’m fine. But I want to remind everyone that it will look awful if you are a business owner; I don’t know. Your income comes in different seasons. Like me, for example, my income is very seasonal. One side of my business is that I do family photography, which is incredibly seasonal. Then, the education side is pretty predictive to almost that point. So I’m trying to balance it all out, but. There are months that I’m like, Oh my goodness, I’m spending more than I’m making. Oh, my goodness. It’s so scary. So these budget-like tips have been helpful for me when leading and working with you, Anamarie.
 
Anamarie Knapp: right. And you can do it in different ways. You can budget by month, as you were saying. Especially if you’re a smaller business, that might be easier. You can put that in like that, or you can do it by year and then compare it—year over year. So basically, once you have your budget and you’ve made it, Then once you start, which most of all small business owners are on a calendar year, once you begin in January, then at the end of your month, look at your income statement if you’re using a QuickBooks or something or look at What if you’re keeping track of it yourself and then add in Put it next to your budget what your actuals are and that way you can compare and see It’s called the variance betweenPutur budget and your actuals. It’ll just help you keep track and see where you are, what you know, how it’s going, and maybe where you need—Putadjust One other tip, which is not so much a tip. You’re supposed to do this anyway for the IRS, but keep your receipts, not just because the IRS could audit you. Still, it’s a perfect way to keep track of expenses because it forces you if it’s like, uh, I got to take a picture of that. I might not spend the 5 or 10 or whatever it is on that thing. And I’ve had clients say that it helps them to do something physically with a receipt. It makes them not even spend money. So it could be a deterrent to spending money sometimes. But it also just helps, it’s another reminder, a physical reminder of oh yeah, I’m spending money and maybe I need to be mindful of it. Or if you have a bookkeeper like me who bothers you by saying, hey, I need all your receipts. 
 
Dolly DeLong: Yeah, Yeah. I’m fully disclosing this to you all. Anamarie has been a friendly reminder, and I’m finally uploading them today. I don’t know if you noticed that, but I’ve been working on it.
 
Anamarie Knapp: But it does help you to keep track, and it can also just make sure that you’re putting in the correct expense amount and that kind of thing. So, like I said earlier, a budget is fluid. So I’ve had people say, primarily where I work full time, they’re like, once it’s made, is it like, that’s it forever? It’s no; it’s called a revision. And especially for a small business owner, it’s your budget. I know, even with Dolly, I think in February, we went in and adjusted some things, and tonight, I went in and adjusted some stuff after you told me. I would say for a small business owner, monthly look at it and you might need to revise or you might, do have a big, Revenue generaRevenuenth that you maybe weren’t expecting. So now I’m going to revise that upwards. So things change, circumstances change, or things change, and revenue is excRevenue. So now, I will revise it and see where I can save money throughout the year. So it’s just essential to look at it. Monthly, and know where you are and what trends are happening. And then, if you do this year over year, you’ll get to where it doesn’t even take you that much time because you’re in a flow and you’ve been doing it. And you understand your plan. Once you’re used to that, you can also start getting into forecasting. I make three- and four-year budgets for goal planning for my business. Knowing those are fluid and will change as time goes on and personal things happen. But it helps me think about what I plan to bring in and what I am planning to spend,d and it helps me Plan for just my business goals and what I want to do because, as I said earlier, sometimes I need to spend some more money if I want to do this thing that could generate more income. Those are things to think about as well. 
 
Dolly DeLong: I 
 
Anamarie Knapp: um, Yeah, ultimately, I would say making a financial plan with a budget and trying to stick to it is very important for your financial health. It will help you again understand what’s going on with your business and why. If you do not use online software, you can ultimately take a budget with your actuals, which can become an income statement. It’s not all the way, but you can also use that for your taxes at the end of the year. So it’s helpful in many different ways and helps you with goal planning and forecasting and things like that. Yeah.
 
Dolly DeLong: Wow, this was a lot of great information. 
 
Anamarie Knapp: Yes, and I wanted to ask you how you felt about doing the budgeting process. 
 
Dolly DeLong: Oh, man. I will not lie. I will not make all of these rainbows and butterflies for listeners. You all, I was terrified out of my mind when Anne Marie started working with me. I was like, Oh great. She’s going to see my spending habits. She’s going to see my slower months and my higher months. And just like how scattered I am. Cause I feel like I’ve always felt like I’m organized, but then. When I started looking at the numbers, I was like, I am not as organized as I assumed. And so it was humble, eating humble pie for me, but you were very kind.
You’ve always been so kind, working with me and creating a budget, making it tangible. I mean, there are still things that I’m just like. I’m wrapping my head around, but it’s hard. It’s like hard. It’s a hard habit to break. So I don’t; I want listeners to hear me. I’m still working through this, and it’s perfect to have a roadmap and guidance and to hold my feet to the fire because there are some big things I want to do with this business. It’s not like I want to take over the world. Please don’t hear me say that. I’m just like, I have some, personal goals I want to meet to impact my family and, impact my, both of my son’s futures. So, It’s been a good learning process for me. And because it’s been a good learning process for me, other people, including my husband, have seen that. Ty always comments on how much he appreciates you and likes that I am now more fully aware of more numbers in my business. So yeah.
 
Anamarie Knapp: yeah, we’ve had a great experience working together, but like I said, you don’t have to have a bookkeeper to help you with budgeting, but yeah. It’s helpful also. As you said, you should have somebody, whether a bookkeeper, spouse, or somebody else, looking at your numbers because I also see small business owners. Come to me, and nobody’s ever looked at it with them other than again. CPAs are lovely, but other than a CPA who does their taxes once a year and they’re not there to, they’re there to get your taxes done usually, and that’s what you’re paying them for, right? But I think it’s beneficial to have some support system and somebody in your life who helps, looks through, and has an objective opinion about what’s going on because I love you, Dolly, but ultimately, if your business fails, it fails, affect me, right, personally. But that’s why I think having somebody who’s not as personally involved with what’s happening and can help you see a bigger picture is good. Because again, for a small business owner, especially, what you’re bringing in affects, like you said, what you want to do for your boys, right? So that’s very personal, whereas where I work full time, it’s different because we could leave and find another job, right? But it’s my business. That’s my paycheck, and 
 
Dolly DeLong: Mm-hmm. 
 
Anamarie Knapp: feeding my family kind of deal. I think having some support system is necessary and admirable. But yeah, while you’re budgeting, if you have someone you can take on your retreat with to help look for your expenses and revenue, that’s all revenue, too, or go to lunch. Dolly and I went to lunch; that was 
 
Dolly DeLong: Yes. That was a lot of fun. And if you have a good bookkeeper, Revenuelike, you were saying, like support, financial, I almost said emotional support, um, economic, financial support, yeah, emotional support, you could eat for hours. That’s, I feel like that’s what we did. or at least that’s how Ty felt, because he was like, where are you? You need to come back home and take care of the boys. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
 
Anamarie Knapp: Yes. Um, well, we will have more tips from our money class. I think that’s what we’re calling that, right? Our money class. Also, if you don’t have anything fancy, like I said, we have budget templates that are easy to use. Like I said, I’ve seen a lot out there. These aren’t the only ones out there, but I tried to make Mine; I know Dolly’s is too simple to use and not so flashy and so much that it’s like I don’t even know Where to start with this Because it doesn’t need to be like that Ultimately, so your finances don’t have to be this crazy ball of things that you don’t understand, right? So, often, it’s just sitting down and looking at the numbers. Again, if you’ve got support to help you look through them, that’s a good idea. That’s even more helpful. But our money class will have even more tips, tricks, and advice for you, small business owners. 
 
Dolly DeLong: Yeah. This money class came out because we discovered that the mint is gone. You all like Mint announced. It’s like a company that helps out with businesses, like the financial side of their business. I’m probably butchering what they did, but, um, they, they’re gone now. And so I know many small business owners were like, what should we do? What should we transition to a new app, and how should we do it? And so I thought, wouldn’t it be nice to have Anamarie come and teach a money class, especially to my audience? Cause I know a lot of us are running the show on our own. We’re wearing all the hats. A lot of us are creative-minded business owners. There’s nothing wrong with being creative-minded, but there’s that stigma of, Oh, you’re creative-minded. You’re not good at numbers. And so, I want to remove that stigma and hire an expert to teach some applicable money tips. That you can use as a small business owner. So yeah, we have a money masterclass, and it’s live now. We recorded it the day before this episode aired. So, this episode is supposed to air on April 28th. And so the money class was. It’s already prerecorded on April 27th. So, after listening to this podcast, you can get live training. Go to the show notes, click the link, and you’ll receive live training. And yeah, Anamarie will walk you through some excellent tips, just like all the tips to apply to your small business. Yeah.
 
Anamarie Knapp: I’m excited. Find the money class. Get the link.
 
Dolly DeLong: The link will be in the show and podcast notes. So we’ll make it easy for you to find. So I hope that this was a little good money class for you. And as a reminder, again, don’t forget to check out the show notes and the corresponding blog post to this podcast episode. So you can get all the links mentioned. If you are interested in working with Anamarie, where can they find and connect with you if a person wants to work with you or chat with you? And if you’re tagging clients, how can they work with you?
 
Anamarie Knapp: Yes. The easiest way is to go to my website. So it’s will, Abby. So w I L a B Y bookkeeping. com. I also have a contact form with my information.
 
Dolly DeLong: Awesome. Okay. And you all, I will be sure to link that in the show notes as well. And I’m not joking around. Anamarie is the best investment I’ve ever made in my money and business. She helped. I feel like Anamarie keeps me on the straight and narrow with cash. So thank you.
 
Anamarie Knapp: You’re welcome. Thanks, Dolly.
 
Dolly DeLong: So thank you all again for tuning in. Again, I will see you next week with a new systems and workflow-related episode. Until then, stay streamlined. And magical and organized! You are a fantastic muggle, and I will talk to you all next week. Bye! 
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including pre-launch.

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