128: How to run a business when life falls apart (a real conversation you don’t want to miss) featuring Dahlia Orth

Dolly DeLong: Hello, and welcome to another Systems and Workflow Magic podcast episode. I am your Systems and Workflow Magic BFF and guide, DollTodayay today, I am so honored to have a friend on the podcast who I have to be; we’ve been Instaedia friends for several years Wend we finally got to meet in person earlier this Januare creative educator conference hosted by Laila IbShed she is another fellow systems and workflow expert and lover hersIt’s it’s Dahlia, Orth and I am so excited to have her now. She is a systestrategistst. And a HoneyBook Pro.

She is fantastic at HoneyBShed. She is passionate about helping business owners create simple, easy, and effective systems and processes that help regain time and freedom in their lives, which we all want and want to experience as a business. As a human and business, Dolly started her business as a photographer and became a virtual assistant. And for a few years before, shcarrierer owed focus down to specializing in systems. She was raised in Jersey and resides in Cleveland, Ohio. She loves to travel the world and will never turn down a spontaneous Yes. Dance party. I love that. So welcome to the show. I’m so happy you’re here. Do you mind giving A more formal introduction to who you are

Dahlia Orth: Yes, Dolly. It’s so fun to indeed, indeed. I feel like it’s been such a long time coming. Um, it has, and yeah, and it’s just sweet. Lovely, it’s a sweet honor to sit here and go. It is a privilege to share my heart and business journey with everyone. So, as you mentioned, Systemystem strategist, HoneyBook Pro. I feel like I have evolved in business over the years, starting in the photography world, and I love photography. I still shoot a little bit in Cleveland, and it’s one of my greatest joys.

And yeah, I’ve been a virtual assistant and did some online business management for a while. I’ve been a honeybook for a few years and love systems. I am like the techie nerd girl. Like we are, we bind over, and I love processes, workflows,flo,w,s, and streamlining things.

And I love helping business owners find the right system for their businesses. I think that’s something I’m passionate about. A lot of people come to me and go, .ey. I don’t know what to use. And, I love getting to educate on that atsharingshare with people, you know, you’re unique, and your systems are going to istinctivenique from every other business owner and helping ally navigate what that looks like so that they can get time and freedom back in their business, which is somethinI’m more than excited about. I am grateful for the opportunity to uni, and yeah, I can’t wait to dive in.

Dolly DeLong: Of course, before we hit record, we were chatting. However, this will not be the traditional strategy systems and workflow strategy podcast episode; instead, we will intertwine some strategies.

When we finally met in January in person, we talked about, Hey, I want you to be on the podcast, would you? I want my audience to meet you. They have to get to know you. You’re so sweet. You’re so knowledgeable. Also, some challenging life circumstances have happened, and you have truly learned about the power of systems and workflows.

During challenging, arduous periods of your life. And so I was like, let’s talk about how to run a business when life is falling apart around you. You’re the only one who can run the company, but what happens? And so I know this is kind of like a. I don’t want to say the darker topic, but it is a necessary force for business owners, especially if we’re running the show on our own.

Many of my listeners are running the show independently, and everything seems dependent upon them. I think that’s a lot of pressure for business owners.

Dahlia Orth: Yes. 100%. Like you said, like we are, I mean, especially cause we’re solopreneurs first, right? It’s not like we jump into business zoning and go, let’s find my team.

Yeah, but we’re also people first. I think that’s sometimes what we forget. What society forgets is. Yes, we run businesses, but we’re people with friends, family,y and comm, and circumstances that sometimes cause us to have to press pause on the bus, and that’s what happened in my life.

So, I think it’s one of those topics. I almost wish we would talk about it more where I went. Okay, I guess I’ll talk about it more, you know? And yeah, it’s near and dear to my heart, and I want to open opportunities for people to go. Oh man, I’m grateful. Somebody said something so we could have the conversation.

Dolly DeLong: Yeah. And listener wants to let you know, like, we’re not trying to scare you, like, Oh, you better be working on systems now because willing to fall apWe’rewe’re not trying to say that, but every human, like that, includes you and me, like we’re not immune to life happening to us.

That’s what I don’t want to say. I don’t know, but take what you want from this. I do; I think that these are topics that I want to infuse into this poLifefe is happening while we’re running our business, and it’sjustt youise not your business.

You are hopefully your person. You lead a life outside your business, but let’s discuss how and what happens when life falls apart.

Dahlia Orth: Yes. Yeah. So I’ll share some of my story about how we got here, right? As I mentioned, I was running a business. I’ve been in business only for nine years, and I think it’s normal, right?

Where you go, everything’s fine, and usually, you know, my mom passed away. So I’ll, you know, my mom unexpectedly passed away, and I’ll share a little bit of the story behind that, but. ; its, it was norm like my life everyday ordinary. Everything was good, and it was April of 2022, it was April 1st.

And, you k, so we’re coming up on two-year years, Mark and I, I was just. Again, as I said, it was normalizing the bus and working with high-level clients. I was so excited, and everything was fine. And, you know, the day she passed, I’ve told this to you. Like I, I saw my mom that morning and, you know, it was just.jIt it’s rocked my world.

And so, you know, the Lord called her home that day, and I remember where, where do you begin? Right. And whether it’s somebody passing away or like a car accident or a health diagnosis, or, you know, someone in our family walking through something difficult, our kids, right. Like our, like whatever that looks like for me, it was my mom.

For me, it was. My mom unexpectedly passed away, and I still run a business. So what do I do in tAnd AndI genuinely, I didn’t allow at the moment, right? Like in crisis, you go, like, I’m just going to do what I need to survive. But I think it became a topic I go to, man; I’m so grateful. I now talk about it, hoping to encourage someone else and give some business strategy behind the practical things I did as a business owner because I was in that peak season of business zoning.

When this happened, I was working on big projects. And I was in the middle of, you know, launches with people, and things were going on that I didn’t have the time for. We always felt it was not the ideal time for this to happen, but it did. And, you know, there’ll be some practical strategies in that, but really, like my story, I unexpectedly had a significant loss in my life, and I had to navigate. How do I still run a successful business?

While walking through intense and complicated grief, and that was my story, and then even after that, it wasn’t like, you know, things happened with my mom, you know, and we did a viewing and a funeral, and we had all the everyday things that transpire after a tragedy. It also looked like I spent most of my summer with my dad and sister in New Jersey, and I never wanted to compromise time with them.

So I looked at that and went, well, what do I do? So I don’t have to pick and choose. I don’t have to go like either my business or my family. Right. And so there were many things I learned along the way that I’m passionate about sharing with other business owners now where I go. Hey, Hey, I’ll see you in the hard.

I see, you know, like it’s complicated. There is nothing easy about it. Whether it’s, like I said, someone unexpectedly receives a diagnosis or something else happens that you go, I didn’t see this coming. And then, B just that, there are ways to, I think, set up your business well for something like this, but how do we do that?

How do we do that practically? And those were things I had to learn along the way in my grief journey. Now I love, you know, getting to say like, Hey, I to help help you be successful because I always say it’s not if it happens, it’s typically when, when, again, not scare people, but more of We’re human and life, life happens.

We’ve all been on the other side of those unexpected moves. So,

Dolly DeLYeah, yeah. I know the answer, but I want to take the audience back to 2022. Like I said, your mother passed unexpectedly. And you saw her that month. Did she have any sicknesses, roses, or illnesses you weren’t aware of? Did it just happen unexpectedly?

Dahlia Orth: So, you know, it was one of those things where I think we have those people in our lives who, we can be stubborn about our health at times. And my mom was like that. She just, she was always like, I’m good. You know, she was a successful real estate agent. So she was a very successful bus, too.

And I think, you know, at times, we all experience this where we go; we can’t slow down because our business is not slowing down. But so, you know, honestly, I thought my family and I suspected some things might’ve been going on, but I don’t know if she would have ever necessarily taken the time to address them.

And so, what happened to her was very unexpected; she ended up passing from a massive heart attack. And, you look at those things, and you go, well, there are probably things leading up to that. Right. PotentiaWen, we talk about like the widow maker and stuff like that.

Again, not to scare people, but more of you know, being intentional about our health, even as business owners, and prioritizing that. And I don’t, you know, I never questioned now, you know, what could she have done differently? The Lord had his plans for that, but yeah, that day it was, we, and had intended to see her for lunch.

We were going, and I ended up in New Jersey. I live in Clev, eland and I was visiting my f. You know, my mom said, Meet me for lunch. And, and it was, you know, we never met her for lunch because, you know, she had passed away before that time. So, it was just one of those things. I’m grateful we were all together, you and I. I’m thankful I wasn’t in Cleveland when it happened. Yeah. Yeah, it was, I mean, again, what started as a typical Friday. We just turned into, honestly, a nightmare. It turned into something like, you never think it will happen to you. And so, yeah, I would say it was just purely.

Now, again, were there things that may be contributing to it? But that day precisely, I never had any ideas. She never mentioned that she was not feeling well or that she was having chest pain or anything like that. It was a very typical d—morning. He would always walk her out to her car in the mornings and, you know, see her off to work.

And that’s precisely what happened. Like it was, everything I’ve lived for the last 30 years happened that day. And, and then she passed away at 11, 11, 17, that just passed. S, I don’t know, you know, again, I woke up and never saw it coming. And so you, I mean, I don’t know how you would have prepared for it either.

Right. I always say both are terrible, whether you’re preparing for someone to pass away or it happens unexpectedly. So.

Dolly DeLong: Because I know you were working with high-level business owners then; what happened when all this happened? How did your relationship then shift and change?

And what did you do? Did you, I mean, because people have so many different reactions? People ghost everyone because tragedy strikes, or they have something set up like a VA that takes over. I don’t know .w, Ye, what did you do?

Dahlia Orth: Sure. So, I mean, naturally, you know, you know this abo:t me, I deeply relationships ship first with business clients. So like they’re, they were all personal, like friends. And I was just like: this, I mean, I, mean immediately when things happened, I said, Hey, something unexpected has happened and shared a few details.

But I just said, I it like. Because it’s funny; we had conversations that morning about some things happening. And I was like, I’m sorry, I cannot answer these things right now. And they were all so kind and gracious and wonderful .and to be honest, you know, which will, we could talk about, you know, in a little bit, but I leaned into some friends and some business, you know now, a community where they were like, what do you attain this moment that I can jump on your business?

And honestly, because of the systems and the SOPs and things I already had in place, it would have been easy for someone to jump in and go, Hey, I can take this over. I did have my VA A, Lyss,  and an at the tShe. She’s beautiful, too. She’s like, what do you need? Who can I help? You know,l of those things, but that’s not always the reality for people.

Right. At the time, I was grateful for that, but yeah, I mean, and the working relationships, honestly, for the first two weeks, I didn’t do anything in the business after that.

Dolly DeLong: yeah.

Dahlia Orth: I couldn’t think about this in those moments. RiLike I had to ju. My priority is my family and, you know, grieving this unexpected. They were very kind and gracious throughout that whole process and were very understanding .that; and then I feel like in grief, especially like someone passes away, you’re trying to grab any sense of normalcy bOncend of the dust settles with the immediate, things that happen, you feel like, I want to try to, Have some normalcy back in my life. So, I returned to Cleveland three weeks later for a few weeks. Then, I traveled back and forth to New Jersey for most of the summer.

I worked for most of that time. I still ran the business, but I did. I leaned into my VA and, you know, my community of people who are like, Hey, what do you need from me? But I also think my sis, my business was set up in a way that allowed for that. It would have been tough if I didn’t have anything in place because my clients probably would have felt like it.

What all the usual things you do for me every week are like, I’m dropping the ball,l or they’re slipping through the cracks because I didn’t have video, workflows, or anything in place. But I did have those things. So that helped, I think, to set me up so I can completely remove myself from my business, and it won’t fall apart. And it didn’t fall apart. I believe my clients are, you know, so kind and gracious and very understanding; I slowly started to jump back into the business. But yeah, for those first immediate weeks, I was like, I’m off the grid. Honestly, it felt a little bit like Trikee felt like it immediately, like it was, you know, people saying I had close friends here in Cleveland. And he was like, how can I jump in? Anandd would have gladly given him the keys to the kingdom. You know, and I was just grateful that some people said I would jump in.

 , So nothing falls apart. Right. And so there’s the beauty of community in that. But also the importance of systems in there, and again, I didn’t realize the value in some of those things. I, you know, I, li, like I had to get on the value of it, but when it’s personal to you, it becomes like much more profound, you know,

Dolly DeLong: exactly.

I’m not even trying to make light of this silicone. I want to preface this by asking you all these questions. I know what we’re going to discuss—some heavier topics. So I’m just like, please, if I sound exceedingly I’m letting the listeners know, if I sound insensitive, please pardon me.

I’m not; I’m just asking Dalia some questions. So you’re looking back because I know you’ve been doing this for two years, just grieving, growing, and learning. And it’s an ebb and flow. Now that you have two years of knowledge, you’re looking back and learning, like what one name, one or two systems you had set up that helped you in thesAwfulful dark moments, like where you’re like, I cannot run this business. I have to grieve. I must be present with my father and sister; what is happening? I can’t think. Yeah. .eah.

Dahlia Orth: I did. I think my saving grace in it was Notion. It was good for me.

Okay. I’m a HoneyBook user and a HoneyBook pro. Um, so my HoneyBook was. What’s your project management tool of choice? Yeah. So my CRM was fine, and I mean, I had retainer clients, you know, more in that season. So, there was nothing on the client-facing side; it was honestly more of the project management for them.

Week, every week task, stuff. And so Notion was really, vastly huge, I think like bread and butter there because, I, what I did is I had a workspace for every one of my retainer clients ts, and then every one of my retainer clients had a space for all their workflow. If they were like podcasters, I had a content library for them. For example, I had ways to manage your con, It. I had workflows for each of their things, like blogging, YouTube, and, you know, podcast stuff. I’m also a massive fan of Loom. So I’m alwLoomlike videos like I’m screen recording everything and embedding it into my system.

So that if I need to step away again, I can quickly say, Hey, it’s all in there. You can figure it out. So that was, I think, a vase thing. And honestly, I was. I was slowly building it over time, not realizing how precious it would be in those I, like, as I would do things for clients, I would go, I would, I should make a video about this or like, I knew with my VA Alyssa, who has worked for me with like for years, I could say, Hey, there’s a video on that now.

And I feel like she always just knew to look there or she knew to, you know, go in there and ju, Oh, Dahlia’s already got it in Andere. Honestly, it just took a little thought and planning for me to get. Okay, I need to have all this stuff in place. But again, it was more of a slow thing over time that I just went. Oh, I should have a place for this.

And I should have a place for that. And then even in my own business, like my logins and, you know, things again. So where if somebodylikes myy close friend.?When he said, I can jump in tomorrow if you need, I could have just handed him the keys to my kingdom in Notion. And I go, you have everything you need to be successful here. But yeah, I feel like that was the

Dolly DeLong: most prominent tone,e I would say. Yeah. AI and then started documents like .aIt sounds like you were just like, Oh, I’m doing this. I will take a video of myself doing this and being in this workflow.

Dahlia Orth: Yes, that’s precisely what I did. I would, you know, I would just. Any, especially new taskIf I was teaching someone on my team how to do it, I would go, Oh, this is a video we’ll need for the future. Some take the link and grab it over there. And honestly, I will say this is a little shameless plug shout-out, but my friend Joy, Michelle, um, actually loves Joy so much.

She was the one who liked it and led that way. I had worked on her team for a season, and I saw how she had this setup, and I was like, this is brilliant. Because she was so intentional with having a place for everything in her business and how she set it up, I thought, man, I honestly didn’t know much about Notion until I met her. It just opened my eyes to a whole new world of project management, and this is what I want in my business. I see the ripple effect of how it served family and mean that. But yeah, it was just slowly over time.

I think we often do, especially tasks that may be monthly or weekly, you know, thin,g,s. We go, Oh, this is just something I do all the time, but to think more strategically about if you ever have to step away from it, could somebody just come in and take it over? It doesn’t hurt to take five minutes while you’re just doing the task anyway, which was huge for me.

Dolly DeLong: Yeah, I want to say this. I applaud you for, well, one. Without even knowing, being so intentional about mapping out your SOPs, putting it, documenting them, and through Loom, through NoLoom, whatever, I applaud you for that, from a strategic standpoint. However, I also applaud you for still reaching out to your one-to-one clients during this time and letting them know, Hey, this is what’s going on, and honest with them.

From their standpoint, I applaud them for being empathetic and understanding because it’s rare. It’s tough to be compassionate when somebody ghosts you and drops the ball. Like that, and then it’s hard, like from. You let them know, and then it would be hard to empathize with them if they said, No, I expect you.

My job, Jo, is to stay at work despite what’s happening. So listeners, remember there are always two sides to this if you hear it. So remember to stay on, even if you have some system in place for yourself, even if it’s a personal system, like how will you communicate to whoever you’re working with or for during challenging times?

If it’s a text or an email, have something in place. You must put 30 seconds of your time into it and then move forward. Hopefully, you’re working with or for some like-minded or empathetic people as well because, again, it’s a two-way street.

Dahlia Orth: It is.

And I think you frame some of those things as unnecessary for me; I was thinking ahead and going, okay, I want to make sure they’re still cared for. So I would say, Hey, my VA, Alyss, will take over. Right. At one point, my other friend jumped in briefly on a honey book project with one of my clients.

And you know, I just said, Hey, so and so, like I’m introducing you to. I tried to be intentional in some of those things where I g, heyy, I’m going to teach you guys. He’s going to take over the project for now. And I will reevaluate when I come back to the office. So I did have to do some of that.

As I said, I must put up an out-of-office response for the triage stuff where I go. I have to communicate with people who will be off the grid for the next two weeks. But yeah, I agree. I appreciate your encouragement and just the challenge of, Hey, like.

I know I’ve been there,e where it can feel sooverButelming. But making just five to ten minutes here, where you send that text, the Voxer message, or the email that something unexpected happens, I want to help set you up for success. It goes a long way.

Um, and it makes people feel cared for. And I think people receive it better, too. And they go, okay, like it’s going to be okay. You know, what do you need? And then they can, you know, they’re understanding and gracious. And I think my easing back into business also made it a lot easier. I go, hey, I’m slowly starting to come back in.

And it wasn’t this, Oh, finally.? It was just like, yay. I’m so excited. And, you know, there was a lot of grace in that, too, knowing that it was just like an ease.

Dolly DeLong: Let’s talk about it because you’ve overcome everything. I’m not saying you’ve overcome everything, but you are fully healed and back.

You’re back, but because like grief is like, it’s a long process. It is a lot, like I, I’ve lost love for decades. Decades ago,  and I still feel the grief hits me like it randomly just, and then I realized, oh, it’s the date of their passing or o,h this is like like s,o so I don’t want ever to make light of oh give yourself some time. Then, you’ll be fully healed and move forward. So, how are you moving forward? Two years later, you are still working and growing your business.? You are still working with high-level clients and helping people with systems and workflows. But where are you now?

Dahlia Orth: Oh man. Yeah. So this, is Iwhatt saying earlier, like to call it the comeback story, right? But I want to make sure I preface it. I want to be so gentle in this moment.

We will triage this because the journey was like those immediate first two weeks. I have some systems in place, and people can take them over. And here’s the beauty— the time to do those things. But I always say the grief journey doesn’t end at the funeral.

Right. And so, I did a lot of back-and-forth traveling through the summer with my sister. You know, you have to be so kind and generous with yourself. Give yourself all the grace. One of the things that was hard for me, mainly because I’m so independent, was asking for what I needed.

Like asking,g Hey, I need, you know, a little extra time today, so I can’t do that task today. Because I need to take it, you know, it hits unexpectedly. I need to take the day and the afternoon and care for myself, or I recently had this happen. I had a hard grief day, and a client of mine reached out and said, Aree, all these changes?

Okay. I was like, yes, I said, I’m so sorry. I never want to apologize, but I always want to let people know. Thank you for being kind and gentle when I need to be type and gentle with myself. It’s so hard, mainly because the task drives me.

But I’ll say, you know, I appreciate that. You see, I had a hard grief day, or I have to flex things around or adjust things. You know, so I don’t say that out of,”  Oh my gosh, like a funeral happens, and you’re good. The next day, it’s a long process. And like I said, I still have days to go two years later. Hey, can we reschedule our meeting?

I’m just having a problematic day, and I needed time to myself. You don’t have to tell people everything initially but give yourself the grace to be gentle with yourself. And to be okay going, my business will not burn to the ground tomorrow if I take an afternoon. I mean, for me, it’s, you know, I love taking naps. I’m like, naps refresh me. And I think they help me rest when it’s an emotional day. But then, you know, for me, my dad moved. My mom passed in April. He moved south to be near his family in September. So, things were moving pretty quickly. And it was at that point in September I was like, well, what now?

Like, what? All this stuff has happened. And I jumped back into volunteering as a project manager at the church. It was one of the best decisions I made for myself because I needed community in that season. I needed to be in a place where I wasn’t just working from home all the time.

And so I just recognized again, do what you need for yourself. What I needed was to jump in somewhere where I go. I was cared for by people around me, and I still do it to this day. I love it. I feel like I get to work with my best friends all the time, and it’s just the absolute greatest.

But man, what a gift they were for me, like walking in that season of grief. And you know, and I think I realized in that season, too, I can give myself grace on the hard days, but I know I can’t stay there. And it’s always, I don’t, you know, I don’t. I never want to minimize people’s difficult circumstances.

But I like to call it the comeback story, where I go, you know what, what does it look like to come back from something tough? And to me, my heart is to go, like, to come alongside people and go, Hey, see you in the hard, or ho. How best to serve you in this tough time?

Because I have walked it, you know? And then, you know, also, you know, being gentle when the hard days still come, because I feel like I’m saying I feel like I’m in this comeback era right now where I’m starting to share more about my story,d talk more about business,s and do more things more regularly. Still, there was a, there was this season.

I feel like that is where I went off the grid. Like people were like, are you alive? Are you okay? You know? Because I just, I just, that’s what I needed. I needed a season where I couldn’t think as deeply about business, but I was giving myself the grace to have that season. It was complete in this comeback era, where I g., Okay, now I can look at it with many different eyes.

But I also want people to feel seen and like, man, even to have a resource in somebody they go to. Somethingharrowingd has happened in my life. What did you find to be most helpful? So, yeah, I mean, it looks like that now, but like I said, you know, it’s not like grief went away the day, you know, we had the funeral and drove away.

It’s still so hard some days, and I still run a business. And so, you think that’s my hope, too, that people g., you know,  e still gets it because it’s still hard. You know, for me, I lean into a community a lot. I love the beauty of the business community. I love art, like my church community.

And, you know, I try twice more. At first, I wasn’t as good at this. But I try to communicate more with people when I’m having hard days. Try just to Hey, I’m just unfortunate today. Or I’m just really emotionally spent, and I need you to be gentle with me or, you know, things like that.

Or even my clients, like again, like recently, I said to one, Hey, you know, can we reschedule a meeting just cause I’m having a hard grief day, you know? And so. I think communicating those things is essential. I think most people are pretty empathetic about it. But to your point, I just personally value it.

Intentional communication. And so I would encourage you to don’t be afraid to ask for what you need. Even in the comeback era where you go, I’m starting to make my way back into things slowly, but the hard days are still going to come and ask for, you know, grace in that. So that’s

Dolly DeLong: what it’s

Dahlia Orth: Again, thank you so much for sharing. I know this isn’t a straightforward story to share, mainly because you are in the thick of it and are still learning and growing.

Yes. Thank you for having me. I genuinely feel it’s a very vulnerable story to share.

I think it’s where business and personal life intersect. And, you know, for me, it’s beyond just like, let me talk business strategy with you, which I love having those conversations, but it’s a very personal topic. And I hope and pray that it can encourage people on the other side of the podcast.

Like knowing that you have people in your corner, and when life hits unexpectedly, they will walk alongside you, and you will be seen in it. So, yeah, I will see, you know, what happens. I’m just really grateful, though. I’m thankful for the space to share my story. So thank you, friend.

Dolly DeLong: Of course, my friend. Now, how can people find you, work with you, or connect with you? What can you point people to in your direction right now?

Dahlia Orth: Yeah. I enjoy being on Instagram and the DMS. I am not always on Instagram, and I don’t post as regularly because I value connections so profoundly.

But if you message me on Instagram, It will be behind. I always hate me behind my inbox. I also have a YouTube channel that I’m pretty active on, and, you know, there’s a ton of resources on my website, too. It’s pretty, pretty new, which is fun. It’s beautiful, by the way. I love your new website.

Elizabeth McCravey and Mary from MK Design. I’ll give them, give her a shout-out cause they are beautiful. But yeah, there are many ways to work together on my website, from CRM help to project management and email marketing. And I like to say that I want to help meet you at any point in your business journey.

And you’ll see the copy on my website, which is very much about how we set up your business in a way that fuels a life you love. So, Yeah. If you feel overwhelmed by business ownership and need support, I am always happy to converse with you. So,

Dolly DeLong: I’m always excited to send people to you, and I have, so I trust you.

Thank you so much for coming on the podcast for those listening in and wanting to connect with Dahlia; then I will have—all of the notes in this podcast’s show notes and the corresponding blog. And again, feel free to DM us and let us know what weights resonate with you.

What aha moments did you experience in this episode? I know it wasn’t a traditionally strategic-filled episode, but it was. It is an episode meant to encourage you, help you move forward, and learn how to move forward in grief and the middle of business. Soyways, you all stay streamlined, and magically, you’re a fantastic muggle. II willtalkIowill talk next week during a bew systemsBew Systemsow maWorkflow Magicisode. And until then, bye.